Aim of the (SF4) thread

This is where we all get together and discuss how to beat our characters so that we can level the playing field a bit and make it more interesting if the others know your weaknesses. Also general talk about the games played and hopefully some videos.


Legend:

j.<something> - jumping move - for neutral jump use 'nj'
c.<something> - crouching move
s.<something> - standing move
L,M,H - light, medium and heavy resp. usually followed by P or K
PP(P), KK(K) - two (three) punch or kick buttons pressed at the same time
Z, SRK - forward, down, down-forward (for the shoryuken)
QCF,QCB - quarter circle forward or back
> - linking moves so for example as Ryu you can c.mp > c.mp
xx - cancel one move into the next, eg. as Ryu c.mk xx qcf+p
360,720 - just in case anyone uses 'gief/seth



I guess I'll start.


ABEL On jump ins I always do one of the following without fail

• j.HP usually jumping away
  
• marseilles roll
  

The problem with this is I can be thrown out of the MR and the timing on the other option is quite hard. Punish me accordingly.

With 'Gief, if I can't get near you, I'm boned. Sagat is an impenetrable fortress.

Awesome, I play Viper and Abel. Neither has a good matchup against 'gief anyway!
'gat I'm used to fighting so we'll have to see

haha, I'mnot a Sagat player. What I meant was that when playing as Zangief, Sagat is impossible. I fear him.

It's not so bad with 'gief against 'gat if you can get close - you'll need to learn timing on LP Banishing Flat to absorb the low tiger shot, and quick lariat the high ones and bulldog him (walk him into the corner) - once there crossups/mixups/throws and pokes to make him stay there - I can give you some practice against 'gat - we'll hook up some player matches - my 'gat is only very average though so won't be great, I know a few of his pokes and pretty good at timing his links

that'd be awesome, thank you. I'll drop you an invite next time we're both on Live.

Any time I'm on I'm willing

Will have roughly three weeks in the middle of August where I have NOTHING to do with my PhD so can spend the entire time on Street Fighter (or whatever I feel like playing on that day)

Sweet. I can post now.

Sagat match up tips eh? Now I definitely need a secondary character. HEH.

Like the new white layout too, cleeeeaaaaan times ^^

All about the clean (you have seen my departmental homepage right )

One of the best tips I can give for playing against any Abel (certainly online) is backdash - as soon as I/they start the

and the start hits you mash backdash - the 'anything' part is a 1 frame link (so they have to press the button within a 1/60th of a second time frame) and if the connection isn't top then you can dash back out of it, they then whiff whatever they are doing (not tested with all backdashes - Elf's is absolutely useless so he'll probably still get hit) and you can get in a seriously heavy ground combo.

Against 'gat we all know we should be crossing up - lots, getting the initial knockdown is the hard part. And that he is slow as ALL hell and really likes filling your revenge meter for free by firing tiger shots fullscreen allowing you to focus them and get free meter for 0 health loss

Wahay! my first post!
love what you've done by the way cront, great stuff.
looking forward to all the challenges that await, mwa ha ha.

well here's another tip against Abel, he has no decent reversals, so, if theres a chance, jump in on him, heh.

why I'd exploit his weaknesses I'll never know...

Samurai_Drew wrote:Wahay! my first post!
love what you've done by the way cront, great stuff.
looking forward to all the challenges that await, mwa ha ha.

well here's another tip against Abel, he has no decent reversals, so, if theres a chance, jump in on him, heh.

why I'd exploit his weaknesses I'll never know...

For that mirror match we have planned I'll unleash the beast one day and you won't know what hit you

The Zangief Hard trail is killing me. I can't do the first one. It's Focus attack - Quick Double Lariat - EX Cancel - EX Banishing Flat. I can't seem to get the timing for the cancel into the banishing flat. Any suggestions? Maybe obvious stuff concerning timing that I'm missing. I've had a look at the youtube videos and all I see are people executing it flawlessly. There don't seem to be any that actually detail what you need to do.

As soon as you press the KKK for the lariat you FADC and while he's dashing do the input for the EX BF, its pretty tricky if you're not comfortable with FADCing but just persevere (or I can show you it in action in a player match so you can see it - wish there was an online training mode...) The only hard trials I've not yet done are Ken 4,5, Viper 5, Elf 5, Cammy 5 (can't be bothered but is pretty easy) and Gen 5. I recently lost my save data where I only had Gen 5 left, so can help with pretty much any of them if people need it

Alright ladettes, so when are we going to get some stuff on the go? i.e -matches, leagues (not sure there's enough yet, hopefully improve soon) match guides, etc, etc.

Anyway, in other news, theres a tournament up here in Glasgow, come the 22nd of August, a few people are coming up from down south (think im the only one from scotland in these forums). Prizepot is £1000, not too shabby eh? Think I might aswell have a go, with my embarrasing 360 pad, hahaha.

I think as you said earlier, Cront, videos would be a brilliant idea. I have nothing capable of anything worthwhile though, might have to delve into that a bit more. Heard capture cards are pretty good. Clueless as to how they run though.

Samurai_Drew wrote:Alright ladettes, so when are we going to get some stuff on the go? i.e -matches, leagues (not sure there's enough yet, hopefully improve soon) match guides, etc, etc.

Anyway, in other news, theres a tournament up here in Glasgow, come the 22nd of August, a few people are coming up from down south (think im the only one from scotland in these forums). Prizepot is £1000, not too shabby eh? Think I might aswell have a go, with my embarrasing 360 pad, hahaha.

I think as you said earlier, Cront, videos would be a brilliant idea. I have nothing capable of anything worthwhile though, might have to delve into that a bit more. Heard capture cards are pretty good. Clueless as to how they run though.

Waiting on these bone idle Swalians

I have 4 or 5 more people ready to sign up so when they have I think we have enough to get going. I'm hoping to have at least something started in a couple of weeks - maybe have two leagues while they finish theirs. I'll sort it out this week and let you all know.
If I can tear myself away from Left 4 Dead

more streetfighter league? sounds good! thanks for those games earlier man, some gooood close games fair dues! be cool if we can work it in tandem timing wise with the cod4 league, may help with organisation!

Any time - if I could pull of Fuerte's ultra on demand I think I could have taken you
They were some good games (and your Ryu is not anywhere near as lucky as you were letting on) and that means I'm just gonna force you to do it again some time!

nah seriously man, the one ultra i caught you with i meant a dragon punch, i panic quite often and try em a few times to get the timing and out comes an ultra.... feel like a gimp believe me! but yeah man shall do battle again!

My Balrog is still unbeaten [I actually even beat Drew the one time I used him against him]
Anyone wanna come and take my 'rog-ginity'?

hey. my first post. I hear you're the guy cront who set this up so cheers. I'll have a go against your balrog dude. I'm not saying I can take you (i've heard off ben that you're a beast) but I do like being schooled. my gamertag is the same as my profile.

cr0nt wrote:My Balrog is still unbeaten [I actually even beat Drew the one time I used him against him]
Anyone wanna come and take my 'rog-ginity'?

Haha, are you sure about this? hmm.

Ah well, even so, I think i'm just slightly ahead in our records so far anyway

So, has anyone got anything worthwhile to record videos?

Ha, yeah, its one of the very few times I've actually beaten you - it was the first of few!